Awesome Day!

I feel extremely happy to be at the MPC and I feel especially grateful for days like today. The lessons I learned today and the feelings I had:

  1. What is wealth? Wealth is value that we gain by giving people something that they like/need/enjoy.
  2. What wealth is not: Contrary to what many think, wealth is not making or having money. Creating value is what makes economies robust because even if many countries print out money to have more medium of exchange (money), they still have the same amount of goods and services to offer, the later didn’t change and so prices are very likely to go up and the currency to inflate. Money is just a medium that people use to trade off and get the goods and services that others offer. What truly creates value and therefore wealth is human action, because people exchange whatever they can because they believe that doing so will permit them to be in a better state than in the one they used to be. We are the meaning and value makers.ImageImage
  3. Where does a drive to seek something better, to have a vision and to try very hard to achieve it come from? Passion, information, everyone is born with ethos (a god within), the system, framework and environment matter, liberty, doing what we love and do it often, taking risks, nature and nurture.
  4. If we are born with a god within, where does it go for most of the people? Maybe as Socrates would say, the ones who lost it or “forgot” it must recollect it throughout life. It is a shame that many people lose that enthusiasm and the drive to dream, learn and create. With my great project I want to help people get their ethos back so that they can become better and happier people who truly get to be themselves.
  5. How do we exercise entrepreneurship?
  6. Ideas on my Great project: recollect your ethos: moms, adolescents and adults; kids, don’t lose it!
  7. Steve Jobs ideas on value (maybe): people don’t know what they want until you show them.

Schedule of the day:

  • Morning meeting-sharing about our vacation
  • “To tell the truth” activity
  • Acton Institute: The call of entrepreneurship
  • Dialogue on the video- what is wealth? What is entrepreneurship?
  • Lunch
  • Persepolis the Movie
  • Dialogue on Persepolis: I loved the movie and I cried a lot because I don’t want my grandma to die and because it hurts that people can so easily destroy each other and the things that we as humans have built and created together.

Galilemma, Newton, Apriorism, Vlog and Life in Silicon Valley

Most of the Euclidean/Galileo/Newtonian days I struggle to keep focused on the proposition, I don´t know if it was because of the coffee I had previously drank or just because, but I was very aware of everything, very focused, and on task. While Isa was presenting Lemma 2, I wondered why was Galileo multiplying the rectangles and squares by four, and it wasn´t until the last step that we finally figured out why. Las week Kata presented proposition unequal parts, the rectangle composed of the unequal parts and the square made out of the half line or of the square made out of the line cut into equal parts, Here, Galileo uses this just unequal ones, he multiplies everything by 4 so that he can use the entire line, without to break and so, a beautiful butterfly came out. We were able to watch the entire process and we have had that butterfly since it was a worm. It was very representative of our beautiful moment of understanding and learning. We named her Galilemma in honor to Galileo and Lemma 2.




Hey, I´m the square on the half








After this we talked about the differences between Euclid and Galileo: in the enunciations of Galileo, he uses things that happen in the real world and he uses Euclidian geometry to prove it. But the things that he enunciates you can see happen in the real world. Euclid is much more philosophical in this sense and may I say more abstract. It is something that works perfectly in the mind and not necessarily in the real world. We also mentioned that we are logical beings, yeah, right, everyone knows that. But what this means is mucho more than what we usually think. Our knowledge is not only based on experience, but it also relies on logic. We don´t need to see some things or to prove them in order to believe that they are true. Euclid´s common notion 1 is a perfect example of this: “things which are equal to the same thing are also equal to one another” without doing an experiment or having a proof, we know this to be true. We know this by pure deduction. When we use a lot of examples that show the same result, we are inducting. The problem with this is that there is no way in which we can prove that the things which we have seen in the past will also hold truth for the future. There is no proof of them, the only thing we know about them is that until now we know this things to happen. This is what is called the problem of induction. I remember that I talked about this in an HIS seminar with a Norwegian guy who was reading Gödel, Escher, and Bach. He taught me about the problem of induction with the classical “white swan-grey swan” example that Andrew used today. This was a moment of serendipity. All of this talk took us into Stuart Mill and his claims of inductive generalization and into Kant´s hardwire logic system. Before this dialogue I would have said that we can only know what Mill says and that is the only method in which we achieve truth. After having this conversation I would say that I sympathize more with Kant´s theory. We are trapped in this sphere of human reasoning and knowledge, as Mises would say: it is our one and only truth. It doesn´t matter if there is anything outside of our sphere, because we can´t reach it or understand it. We are trapped in this human bodies and minds, it is what it is. Just like with the “self evident” propositions, there is no proof to many things that we think true, but still our logic permits us and makes us believe that it is.


Ways in which we learn and know

1)   Self-evident, axiomatic, common notions, certainty.

2)   Deductive inference from known facts.

3)   Empirical knowledge: experience: induction (generalization from particulars).


After we had a dialogue on Human Action followed by a storm of acknowledgments I felt really good. We had such a productive day, full of learning and team work. Sadly we didn’t have such a long debrief because four of us were heading to the Business School for a conference called “Life in Silicon Valley”. Five young entreprenerus, with ages ranging from 16 to 25 came to the university and were to give what seemed a very interesting conference.


Followed by a run of about four minutes to get to the business school on time, Carla de Hess presented each of the speakers and the first hing that caught my attention was that the yonger girl mentioned that she had sent at least 200 mails to start her journey and that less than 20 got replied. The guy who opened the conversation was David ( by saying that in Silicon Valley, people are more supportive of doing projects in general. Since he got a Phd from MIT at age 14, he mentioned that in Boston people would always ask him, after he told them about an idea that he had or a project: “why do you want to do this?” and in Silicon Valley the most popular response would be: “why are you not doing it yet?” or “how can I help you?”. David said that we should always be doing whatever we are excited about. These people were very excited about what they were saying. It is a shame that I am terrible at remembering names, I do remember that one of them is a Thiel Fellow working on making scientific knowledge more accessible to people. I could see that all of tem were extremely passionate human beings and they even offered to help us with anything that they could.


Pros of being in Silicon Valley (and their connections to our ideals at the MPC):

  • Empowering environment
  • Makes people happier
  • Community of like-minded people
  • Easy of failure
  • Jumping at things you have never seen before and learning something out of them.
  • Fast feedback
  • Meritocracy: your degree doesn’t really matter, your past doesn’t really matter. What matters is what you are doing at the moment.
  • Supportiveness
  • Forgive and forget
  • Environment of learning and curiosity
  • Tolerance for risk
  • Willingness to learn and listen
  • Supportiveness of creation
  • Peers intellectually engaged and interested in what you do.
  • Incentive to produce as much as you can because other people are doing the same.
  • Testing ideas
  • Culture of innovation
  • Group of people that genuinely believe that they can change the world, and they are doing so!
  • Writing is important: not everyone can see you, but in nowadays everyone can read you.
  • The general question is not why, but, “why not?”


First of all I want to warn you reader, today was an amazing day and a lot of things are written on my notebook. Get ready, here I go… Diego guided the morning meeting and in his activity we shared small things that changed us during the summer. He said he got inspired by watching Mark Twain’s documentary. After this we continued our conversation with Christopher Phillips, we talked about writing, what “voice” is and I learned a lot from this. The biggest obstacle that keep humans away from writing is themselves. The only thing that is need is a piece of paper and a pen or pencil, or even a computer, cellphone or Tablet. Small writings would be beneficial to do while people acquire the habit of writing. Writing personally helps me to organize my thoughts and to place them in a way that sounds more beautiful, still my “voice” is still in every form of expression that I may use. Christopher told us that he likes to write in a simple way, yet not simplistic. He writes for his mom who doesn’t have a huge educational background because he wants his books to be understood by everyone. He tries to avoid using technical words without first explaining what they mean. Now, I will post the activities and questions that Christopher assigned us to do, after writing the answers we shared them with the rest of the class.

Describe yourself in three adjectives

  • Free-minded
  • Fun-Happy
  • Aware-emphatic

Is this how I talk? Ask and answer this question…

I have not been expressing myself and “getting real” as much as I used to some time ago. I have not been expressing a lot of feelings and thoughts that I used to express impulsively.

Imagine and describe your ideal reader. Write to this ideal reader and only to him.

Description of my ideal reader:

  • Curious
  • Wants to know the foundations of as many things as she/he can (the bases that support every theory)
  • Joyful
  • Asks a lot of questions
  • Wants to know the truth
  • Is a complex being
  • Is a people lover

Hello ideal reader, I think that I have been influenced on the greatest Greeks lately. First came old Socrates and then surely came Aristotle. I never thought I would like Aristotle as much as I like Socrates. The latter though, occupies a greater space in my heart. A lot of questions have popped into my mind lately. Questions about myself, about the world, about people, about systems and about institutions. I have been observing a lot of things lately. I wonder why the world is so complex.

*Get with another person and share with one another what you think each other “voice” is like* My partner was Javier Tabush and here is what he said about me:

  • Is sometimes whiny
  • When it is not whiny it is intellectual and formal
  • Says the truth with jokes

I am going to quote Grace Becker on the importance of writing: “Writing I an exploration of thought”. This is truth for me because a lot of times I think that I already understand something, or that I have already made the connection of the dots I was trying to connect and writing actually helps me to organize my brain.


Christopher Phillips:


Twitter: @ChristopherCafe

Book recommendations:

  1. “On Writing Well” by William Zinssen
  2. “Elements of Style” by Struak and White

After this I started to brainstorm for the speech I’m giving on Friday. I felt like writing about yesterday (sunday) because I learned a lot of things about myself and I felt a of powerful emotions. I started to write about this and it connected to my experience in the first year of the MPC. So here it goes…

  • “A lesson of humility”
  • The many things that we can learn from listening to ourselves and to others, being quiet.
  • Suspending and Proprioception… learning about it and practing it
  • Friendships, support, and feedback
  • Beauty and variety of humanity
  • The power of making life as beautiful as we can.


-Taking the leads of our life and of our education

-A new way of learning.


During our individual time I visited Amable Sanchez because I wanted to ask him a couple of questions and truly because as my weekend was so intense, I just needed to talk with someone about it and ask for some advice. As always Amable was very kind and amiable, I wish the world had more Kinds, with a capital letter.

Alejo came to visit us, and then Mabe appeared too. It was an amazing thing to have both of them together again at the MPC. They are part of our big family. Daniel Cuervo gave us a presentation on passions, dreams, fears, performance and potential. Fear has a purpose of survival, we fear the things that threaten us and when we are presented with such an scenario, we can choose to either a) attack, b) retreat or escape, or c) freeze. What makes us perceive something as a threat? An underlying belief. The first time that something doesn’t come out right, we stop doing it and so we loose something that could become our passion. Based on our first time performing we may thing that we are not good enough. I plan to celebrate effort a lot more than the results. “It takes time for potential to flourish”-Dweck. Change isn’t like a surgery were you remove what you don’t like and change it for something that you like more. It is a learning process and becoming good at something requires effort, practice, perseverance and patience.

Finca “El Zapote”

My notes on Dillard and Thoreau/ stream of consciousness/ awareness of my surroundings:

At 5 pm on my spot:

With every second that goes by I notice more and more things. When I look towards the waterfall I listen to the sound of the water stronger than when I look toward the other side of the pond. It’s amazing to see the birds that pass by in the reflection of the pond or in the reflection of my Kindle. As Thoreau points out in Solitude, I’m “having a little world all to myself”. We are never alone, we are always surrounded by things, nature, people, animals, other planets, the stars, etc.

From 5:40 a.m. to 7:00 a.m. in my spot:

More mosquitoes are flying around me, tons of them, they are in different groups. The birds of the red tree are leaving it. Every bird is flying away: as we always do at some point in our life, towards a goal, to pursuit our dreams, away from home or away from our comfort zone. While we fly we get to know other birds (other people), that flew away from other places, that will enrich our life and our experience on earth. We enrich ourselves by interacting with people. The birds, looking at all the landscapes and cities from the top, like if they were on other level, appreciating everything. Adding beauty, quality, knowledge, strength and worth to their lives.

The sun is rising up very fast! That’s how I should wake up every morning, in order to appreciate the beauty of the universe. I’m surprised that the lilies have not opened yet; I woke up earlier than most of them. I wonder if the ants are awake at this time, I haven’t seen one yet, which is weird because the other times that I have been in this spots I had been surrounded by them. Lots of birds are singing, which make me want to sing among them. Like Thoreau, I’m not feeling alone. There is so much to look at this place. To my back, I can see the volcano and many trees. I finally got to see a spider; I’ve seen a lot of spider webs, but no spiders at all.

We are just like cameras; we can’t focus everything in one place at the same time just by looking once. We focus, we see what we want to see. There are different levels in nature and in everything we see. We choose which level to see. Water drops, lots of water drops in many plants. I thought that the sun was already lighting everything up and as brighter as it can get, but actually it wasn’t because now everything looks brighter. I want to be like the sun, always giving more, doing and achieving more than expected and influencing and helping others with his light.

I wonder why is it so hard for me to close my eyes and remember everything: every single detail that my eyes saw a second before. As I close my eyes, the picture I was just seeing vanishes from my mind and I just see blackness.

So many things that can capture my attention. Sounds, the birds, the waterfall near me. Actually I’m getting the feeling that even birds have patterns to their singing.

There is one flower alone, a beautiful one, I cannot see it very good, I’m going to go for a walk to encounter her. It’s amazing how animals and plants share the space with other plants and animals. Apparently they live peaceful and in harmony. Oh, anarchy! Are flowers a she or a he?

I wonder why people forget that we are creators; we are capable of creating things. I was thinking about the guy who invented digital cameras. I bet that he was passionate for both computers or programming and photography.

We settle, and as we wait for authorities to tell us what to do (at schools, work, and home, we keep on waiting for “the smart people” to do stuff so that then we can buy it). But we too are cool and smart, the only trouble is that we enjoy or we think we enjoy procrastination, sleeping, not taking chances and challenges. But the most horrible thing is that we don’t believe in ourselves. We don’t believe, we somehow forgot to do our homework on loving and looking with awe and admiration to what we as humans are. We need not be humble about it, look around you, you’ll find a lot of work and creation made by men in collaboration with one another.

Everybody wants to be famous, to leave a legacy, to be remembered; but they don’t fight for what they believe. We conform to Corn-Pone Opinions, to what most of the people thing, to fit in. We don’t have opinions of our own, but merely opinions of someone else. We stand for nothing. Many others criticize war but are hard to keep a conversation with because they are stubborn and think they are always right. Men can do nothing alone, as humans, we need to collaborate, thence to communicate with others. It is by this interaction that we enrich our lives and our knowledge grows. We need be willing others to question our deepest assumptions and opinions in order to learn. I don’t want to fit in, I want to stand out. Standing up for what I value and having a great life that I won’t ever change.

I wonder if religion has something to do with this. Because now it seems that people think that they have a happy future secured with the idea of going to “heaven”, they think that just because they believe they’ll be happy in the afterlife. But we don’t know what will happen when we die. We better exercise our free will and do the things that we dream of, because nothing is secured or sure thing. EVERY DAY IS A MIRACLE. Amable Sanchez and Kemeny told me that miracles are everything that the laws of nature or humans can’t explain; hence we are surrounded by them… WE ARE SURROUNDED BY MIRACLES. Human action is a big example of this.

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November 13, 2012

Today Bert directed the morning meeting. He was supposed to show us a video of a conversation between Steven Pinker and another guy whose name I don’t remember right now. I went out for about 15 min and missed part of the agora where people discussed the Thanksgiving lunch party that we are throwing to celebrate with the friends of the MPC. The reason of my going out was visiting Amable Sanchez to give him a rose. Yesterday I left a thank you letter for him giving us the classes on Don Quijote and for the time he has given to us before. Today I gave him a rose and he opened the letter and read it in front of me. First, he cried when I gave him the rose. Then, he cried when he read the letter. He was very happy and eager to see what the letter had to say and he told me multiple times that it was “beautiful”. I was thinking the whole time: “I should have a camera with me right now”. But I think it would also be kind of awkward to have a camera in front of you while you are all excited and joyful, moved to tears. I also wanted to cry because I noticed that he is still wearing his wedding ring, in his little finger, I guess because it doesn’t fit in any other. Amable is seriously the cutest person in the entire planet and he is such a gentleman. I love him!!! I just got the idea of giving him a rose randomly, and then he and Diego told me that roses are something very, very dear to him. He writes a lot about them. I hope that everyone in the MPC can share Amable’s excitement toward The Quixote in order for all of us to enjoy this and in order to honor Cervantes and Sanchez. Amable told me that Don Quijote is the second most translated book after the Bible. I didn’t know that, it’s really cool.

Euclid’s class today was kind of messy and tense at the beginning. The day finally come when were to pick from the sorting hat the names of the people who were to present propositions 4, 5 and 6. Many of us were not prepared, including me, and the first name that got out of the hat was Diego’s. He said that he was not feeling prepared to do this but we all told him to try because it was his turn, and so he did. Then Mabe helped him out and I finally understood this proposition. Is such a joy to watch Mabe present Euclid, she sort of transmits her love for him. Proposition number 2 was also presented by Mabe, this time she took some pauses and time to present her argument but in the end I also got the proposition. Then, it was Kata’s turn to present proposition number 6, i had a hard time following, probably because of how long have I been sitting down and listening. Finally I sort of understand this one but what I had troubles with was with Euclid supposing things when they were not like that, but never mind is just an exemplification.

We discussed the difference between debate and dialogue way too long, so we didn’t have time for words and rules.

I really need to improve my schedule, because I am not posting what a I doing every 15 min. I just have a schedule for every 15 min. Something to point out is that we don’t follow the schedule a lot of the times at the MPC, because we talk more about stuff that we shouldn’t bother with. We learn a lot but this time needs to be replaced for our weekend, which is no longer a “week-end”. This reminds me of Steven Pinker’s “Words and Rules”, chapter 2. Because we often forget the meaning of the composition of compound words like weekend, which should mean: week-end. But the week never ends for me anymore; at least that is how it seems right now. I’ll be documenting last week and trying to document some of our readings. I am now following advice and taking notes, at least on paper, something is something. We also mentioned that we really need to get our levels up with Euclid and prepare ourselves to present anytime.

October 26, 2012

Today Alejo guided the morning meeting. He showed us a clip from one of his favorite movies, where Natalie Portman is making crazy things in order to do something original that no one else has ever done or will do. Then, we had to do something crazy, I was the first, I did some crazy moves, and people laughed. My favorite one though was Bert’s, he made a Ludwig Von Mises move, he touched his nose with one finger and said Ludwig, then with the other finger in his nose he said von, and then he said Mises. Oh, you fun libertarian jokes. Oh, and Ingrid made dancing that made me laugh a lot too. Then Alejo showed us a video where Steve Jobs mentions that once you realize that everything that we are able to see was created by a human, who was just like us, everything changes. Here are the links to the videos that Alejo shared with us.

Then, during my individual time I used Kyle’s suggested app to work for 25 min and rest for 5. Pomadora is the name of this app. I was also trying to work standing up, like Kyle. I did this for two cycles, but then I stopped because I was not concentrated anymore in the reading and it was almost time for our visitor of the day to come, Dylan Evans. Dylan is a really cool and famous man, who is currently teaching for free at the university. He is also a Dj, a PhDj. The cast of the Matrix movie had to read one of his books. I really tried to use my individual time of today wisely in order to Finish with The Trivium for Wednesday, and to document the things that I needed to document.
Oh, and here is the schedule I have for today:
• Reading The Trivium on periods of 25 min, with 5 minute breaks in between.
• Dylan PhDj
• Document yesterday’s afternoon and today

Dylan Evans came and we had a discussion basically about himself, his life, and a book that we will be reading with him: “Thinking, fast and slow”. He told us that he understood that our program was basically learning how to learn. We agreed. He majored in philosophy but told us that the best philosophers of all history did not have any degrees, he put Plato as an example. I never thought of that before, but it is true. After getting his diploma, he went to Argentina to teach English, there he discovered psychology, which is his main field of work. He mentioned that in Buenos Aires people are just big fans of Freud and Lacan and of psychoanalysts. There, he started reading Lacan and took some notes on it, then he put them in his computer and he realized that he had a book there, so he called someone to publish it, he did, and that is a very famous book in psychology. Dylan is very fun, but many times I thought that he was making a joke, even though he was telling the truth. His life reminds me of Forest Gump, he told us that he even started a cult in Scotland, I can see that he does whatever he wants, whenever he wants it. He told us that when people ask him: “what do you do for a living?” or “what do you do?” he answers: “I think”. So he thinks for a living. He told us that he is never able to attach to one topic, he is always changing topics and research topics, he writes books about different things. He is in the University because he is writing a book on Free Cities right now. He also mentioned some things about the market, and about how people make decisions and buy things. He said that people are not always rational in the market; I will like to know more about this. Oh, and he advised us to stop worrying so much, and to work less haha.

I had a feedback session with Bert and Ingrid. I really liked how the things went down for this session. First, I had 10 minutes to tell both of them how was I feeling as an MPC pioneer and how did I think the program and the rest of the stuff was going in here. I told them that I felt like there is so much I could learn from the MPC if I use my time wisely, and if I really put effort into it. There is just so much things that I could learn in here, but it is my choice, I need to choose it daily in order to make it. I need to choose to be an organized and responsible learner everyday that I come to the MPC. I need to commit to this program, I need to read in my house, I need to work my class off during the individual time, etc. I also told them that sometimes I get the feeling that we are building an awesome culture in here, and some other times I feel the exact opposite. When nobody reads, like what happened with The Trivium and when nobody is doing their individual work, I get this feeling that we are going backwards. Then, Bert and Ingrid talked for about 8 minutes about me, and I couldn’t intervene, and they were not talking to me. It was just a conversation between both of them, I was just a spectator. The advice that Bert gave me with my reading documentation, which is what I need to work on, is: I could document what I read every 30 min or so, for about 5 min in order to not leave the entire book to document for the last minute.

Here is what Bert and Ingrid mentioned about me:
1. It’s great that I’m calling other people for quality, like I did with the MPC handbook.
2. The handbook thing made them think that I care a lot about the MPC
3. I have courage to confront people when I have to do so, I should do this more often.
4. In the bus on our way back from Atitlan, Bert saw Carmen, being Carmen.
5. I shall pioneer the program and become a great model.
6. I have a performing ability, and I have a great sense of humor. I have to use my qualities to relate to others and to get into people.
7. I have a great potential, and when I understand and acknowledge all this that I can do I am going to do great things.
8. People listen to me when I speak.
9. I am not aware of how much my example and what I say has an effect on people and changes things.
10. I need to accept the role of being a pioneer and to accept and make a great use of this power.
11. I need to discover my inner strength.
12. I am thoughtful to express my feelings.
13. I am polite, honest, respectful, observer (very observer), aware of what is going on.
14. I need to do something about the things that I see and know that I don’t like or are not right.
15. I love to be surrounded by people who are great learners.
16. I am going to be so much better now that I am finally using a schedule and trying to organize myself.
17. Using my MPC individual time will help me feel successful.
18. I need to celebrate what’s right with the MPC in order to fix what’s wrong with it.
19. I can’t be defeated because of the wrong stuff.
20. I have to acknowledge myself because I have been a great model.
21. Using the right body language could make everyone notice how present I am.
22. I shall always express myself.
23. I don’t have to feel defeated.
24. I need to realize that I have a lot of values and that I am resilient. This is a time for self-reflection.
25. I have all this power inside me: moral, intellectual, humorous, creativity and playfulness.

I felt very good after this feedback session, it was mainly positive stuff and congratulating time. It really shocked me though, because throughout my life, people have always told me that I have a lot of potential inside me and that I don’t explode it. People often say that I don’t believe in myself and in the great things that I could do because of how great I am. I didn’t believe this, but now I do. Because Bert and Ingrid have known me for about two months and they are telling me the same stuff that people have always told me. I do believe that I have great qualities that I could rock just if I want to!

Lucia, Mabe and Alejo showed us the videos of themselves teaching how to prove the first 3 postulates of Euclid’s Elements. They were really good for them doing it the first time, but there is a lot of things for us to improve yet.

October 23, 2012

Today Franz directed the morning meeting and he showed us something that he wrote called “What I talk about when I talk about “This and “That”. Throughout the essay, Franz talks about a thing that he wants to do that is being oppressed by another thing that society imposes on him. Franz has an awesome ability in writing. Then, I just worked on my Self-Evaluation during the entire morning.

Today we worked again with the first 3 Euclid’s Propositions. I felt very happy and joyful, because I finally was able to understand a lot of Euclid. I had a big, big smile on my face. I’ll like to thank Kata, because she was my guide towards this understanding of my own haha. Truly, every time I work on Euclid I feel a bit more enlightened. Thank you Euclid if you can read this you know that I love you.

Today debrief was very heated. A lot, a lot heated haha. It was a discussion of whether we should let in the people who come late to the morning meeting and to the epicycles and other reunions that we have. There were practically two sides, the one of the two Riveras, who were in my perspective not willing to change their opinion, they were not being flexible, not allowing other ideas into their minds. The fact is, that we have pass by 6 weeks and the same people keep on coming late or not caring about the time commitment that we made. I find it very rude when people don’t come on time, because I think that they slept more than I, and that I also wanted to sleep more, but I don’t because I mind about other people’s time, and I also mind missing the morning meeting. Truth is, that we shouldn’t have the necessity to discuss this punctuality issues, but we have to. I hope that people realize with this discussion finally that it is very important that they arrive on time to the morning meeting. It is also important to get on time after lunch, and to form the circles when the time is requiring so, because today I was one minute late for the epicycle. Something that I learned at the MPC is that it doesn’t matter how little late you were, what matters is that you were or were not late. Is the same when you don’t do an assignment, is the same if you don’t do it than if you haven’t completed it. So better give that little extra effort in order to achieve things and make things better. So, we are going to try this week a new methodology, when people arrive late, they are going to get inside the room, but they are not going to be allowed to be in the circle or to participate in the discussion. They are just going to be listeners.